Comments on Greg's Place: WYWSITUN Volume 1: Adjacency System Changes

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I've always wondered at some of the services that ...

2008-04-23T08:29:27.042-07:00

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Now, we're getting it for free.

Just like free beefcakes. But with less beef. Mmmmh, beef. ;)

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Nice to read.I don't know but I also hope this hel...

2008-04-02T00:47:06.650-07:00

Nice to read.

I don't know but I also hope this helps with characters not rendering.

Each time we meat at Thuga, there is at least one group member not being rendered. I always need to ask them to jump to get them rendered and then to be able to buff them accordingly. ;)

(Awesome post Greg! I tried commenting on this blo...

2008-03-29T21:34:02.105-07:00

(Awesome post Greg! I tried commenting on this blog post the other day but my computer ate my reply =(

I was curious as to what EQ2's player-character's polygon counts were around?

By the looks of it, I would guess 4500-6000 polygons.. but I can't be too sure without wireframe inspections :)

(just really curious, always wondered how EQ2 stacks up against other Next-gen game titles these days)

-Kol

Greg,Thank you for this post. It is nice to get an...

2008-03-27T01:00:25.320-07:00

Greg,

Thank you for this post. It is nice to get an insight in the work behind the stage. I am looking forward to your next piece.

It's possible the network changes also coincided w...

2008-03-26T20:11:40.428-07:00

It's possible the network changes also coincided with the GU43 release, but I'm not sure of the exact date. Hopefully we'll know something soon.

The consensus from everyone is that it started as ...

2008-03-26T19:52:03.044-07:00

The consensus from everyone is that it started as soon as GU43 went in, and I agree from my experience.

I didn't mean to "armchair program", just saying.

It seems we've been having some lag issues related...

2008-03-26T12:12:26.804-07:00

It seems we've been having some lag issues related to network hardware, so that might be what you're seeing and not necessarily something related to GU43. Our network guys are working on it with the hardware vender.

Also these changes are great but I would personall...

2008-03-26T06:08:24.336-07:00

Also these changes are great but I would personally give my left testicle for the lag introduced in GU43 to be fixed.

You'd be surprised, Greg, how many people would re...

2008-03-26T00:15:16.837-07:00

You'd be surprised, Greg, how many people would read even minor bugfix notes, let alone changes to the game mechanics, and combat tweaks, quest adjustments, raid mob changes, etc.

You surely have an issue managment system and a source code repository... the list of fixed/implemented issues per GU would make a good read for those interested in it. A bit like you see on open source (sourceforge f.e.) project websites.

Added a new AOE to the Leviathan? Why, have a line about "new effect from Leviathan" in the notes. Fixed an issue with the "Taking it to the Source" quest? Have a line about how the named froglok inside the ruins has returned or whatever. The customers would be happier. ;)

Ah well. Big companies and transparency are no good friends.

Chris: I think the ASS happens on the server, but ...

2008-03-25T21:29:50.892-07:00

Chris: I think the ASS happens on the server, but I could be wrong.

Just adding my /vote for more posts like these. :-...

2008-03-25T08:08:24.279-07:00

Just adding my /vote for more posts like these. :-)

I'm confused. In your arm chair programmer post i...

2008-03-25T07:09:42.815-07:00

I'm confused. In your arm chair programmer post it sounded like you could get the most gains from moving processes from the CPU to the GPU instead of multi-threading.

But on this post it seems like you are moving processing from the GPU (to render the objects) to the CPU (to decide if the the GPU should render it or not)

So I guess what I am asking is does the process of determining what needs to be rendered in high LoD take place on the GPU also?

If not then I am not sure I understand why you would be looking at one process to move from CPU to GPU and another to move from GPU to CPU at the same time... is one more efficient at a particular style of task?

Great stuff!!! MOAR!

2008-03-22T09:38:30.553-07:00

Great stuff!!! MOAR!

I would think the reason why some of us, want 99% ...

2008-03-22T00:33:26.060-07:00

I would think the reason why some of us, want 99% of everything to be included in some kind of dev/coder notes. Is that we'd like to help you in return, by being able to speed up the liveQA testing. That unfortunately we actually do in the live environment because there isn't time for internal QA to do full scale testing that players would actually get up to. For example if we log in and an encounter has changed and is now a little buggy. If we have something more akin to “Encounter based triggers have now been made to lock to the engaged player group", rather than nothing. This would allow us to quicker feedback issues with encounters like Nexona when things don’t work right. I understand that there is one point of reasoning that would say, don’t post notes about "exploits" or workarounds as it highlights to people what is out there. But I feel that you should really go with the say it’s fixed and trust a section of your player base that actually cares about playing the game as coder intended to highlight those issues to be fixed.

Just in general, I would say that any mob that is ...

2008-03-21T14:48:15.729-07:00

Just in general, I would say that any mob that is aggro and you are within 200% of its aggro radius, should be given a very high priority in the ASS. Mobs not rendering until you are *within* their aggro radius is very confusing and very frustrating.

This post is great and should be on the official f...

2008-03-21T14:17:15.459-07:00

This post is great and should be on the official forums.

It might help with PoA and the Drachnids. Unfortu...

2008-03-21T13:27:38.634-07:00

It might help with PoA and the Drachnids. Unfortunately I can't say for sure, with so many variables, those problems could be caused by something else. If you get the chance to try it again after GU44 goes live let me know if you still have the issues and I'll take a look at those areas.

These types of posts are always appreciated even b...

2008-03-21T12:40:35.139-07:00

These types of posts are always appreciated even by us "armchair developers".

I can only meow along with the other sheep (I'm so...

2008-03-21T12:30:46.480-07:00

I can only meow along with the other sheep (I'm so confused now).

Very interestin, keep doing this. Please.

Will this affect how mobs don't render until you'r...

2008-03-21T12:15:05.479-07:00

Will this affect how mobs don't render until you're right on top of them? This is pretty bad with the drachnids in the first part of KP. But I've recently been visiting PoA again and the mobs in there are doing it really bad now. PoA was never like this before. The Green Dragon up top is the perfect example. You clear the room until he and his three guards pop, and all you see are his three guards. The dragon doesn't render. So you start pulling the guards, and whammo, the dragon is suddenly right on top of you whacking you down. That room has a lot of chairs, bookcases, books, etc. so your changes to the ASS may help there. Was just curious.

It's basically up to the individual developers tha...

2008-03-21T10:51:43.882-07:00

It's basically up to the individual developers that make changes to decide if their change appears in the update notes or not.

I think many times if its a minor bug fix or a tweak like this that would normally require a more lengthy explanation, we may opt to just leave it out. However, I think I included a one-liner in the update notes about some of these changes.

Personally I am going to try to include something about each change I make because I know people want to see even the minor stuff.

However, there are somethings that just don't make sense to post, like modifying something on the back-end to reduce the size of a database record. Ultimately no one will be able to see the outcome of changes like that.

As a general note on technical notes for changes t...

2008-03-21T09:55:30.591-07:00

As a general note on technical notes for changes to game. Would it be worth, asking all the dev/coders to add "#single line effective comments" about changes that are made (then again any good coder does this anyhow ;)) and then just rip this information out for a technical update notes? That gets linked at the end of the normal update notes.

WYWSITUNWTFBBQ? Even though I do not have the lev...

2008-03-21T07:36:15.136-07:00

WYWSITUNWTFBBQ? Even though I do not have the level of technical proficiency that most of your other readers probably have, I would just like to chime in that highly detailed posts of changes like this are fantastic.

I am curious if this sort of change would get at least a line in the eventual update notes, and if not, why not get a brief mention.

Also, I'd like to campaign for you to be the person to weed through what things should and shouldn't be mentioned in the notes.

Great post Greg! I love these little bits of info...

2008-03-21T05:25:00.773-07:00

Great post Greg! I love these little bits of information, they really add to my appreciation of the game. I'm a techie at heart, if not always in practice :)

Keep up the great work and I look forward to future WYWSITUNs :)